Well.... here's the thing....
the last time I looked.... Kool-aide comes in many different colors and flavors. There are also those who have many different preferences as far as how sweet or how tangy they like their Kool-aide. Point being that even Kool-aide is as diversified with choices as anything else out there.
Bottom line---------
Whether you are standing in line at the next cult convention or whether you are simply very thirsty.....
there will never be just one kind of Kool-aide that everyone prefers to drink.... nor should there ever be.
It's all about choices and decisions and making your own decisions instead of having someone else tell you what your only choices are....
and when a situation arises where a once seemingly 2 way street just keeps getting narrower and narrower and the traffic is definitely getting stalled at that one way "Yield" sign....hmnnn. Just hmnnnnn.
and then.... here's another thing.
One might think that those who have been known to capitalize and cash in on the dissent of others would somehow have a better feel on how to handle types of dissent within their own community instead of just banishing them in an effort to keep a lid on things.
?
Some people (myself included) would certainly feel that pretty much bad things happen when only one way of thinking is allowed. Especially when the people who do speak up and voice other opinions are suddenly punished or grouped as "troublemakers or liars " and are being called "a group of those wanting to only bring harm to others " when in fact they might only be guilty of caring about it enough to say something in the first place.
Yes there are always about 3 sides to every story.
And when I think of how bad things can get when people are afraid to speak up...well gee one word "Hitler" comes to mind....that's an extreme example of what happens when one view is the only view allowed at the time.
And here's another thing....trying to cover up crap and hoping it will just go away pretty much just makes a big ole huge crap pile kind of keep growing. Like the magically morphing pile of poo or something like that.
Because when you try to cover the crap up and sweep it under the rug without addressing it and being down right honest about it.... it doesn't take long for someone to come along and step in that not so hidden crap and start trampling around and spreading it all over the place.... and pretty soon more and more people are out there stepping in it and before you know it you have a big ole humongeous stinky pile of poo that would have probably just shriveled up and disintegrated had it been faced properly and head on.(And if you had the foresight to keep your friends close but your perceived enemies closer)
Guess there's a reason why most turds float...sometimes like cream they also rise to the top and no matter how many times you flush....they just seem to keep fighting and won't easily go away.
And that leads me to thinking....
is Kool-aide good for the digestive system?
Okay...so that's my ramble for the day.
Hope ya'll have a nice weekend!
#communitycrashers #koolaide #makesmenotthirsty
Friday, January 24, 2014
Thursday, January 23, 2014
Team Zibbet? What was that all about?
I know a lot of nice people at Zibbet and although I do not personally know the person behind the Team Zibbet Twitter account.....
I'm wondering if she is aware that many are comparing her posts to the melt down and the Cra Cra that happened at TCS.
To an outsider..reading "Team Zibbet" one would obviously think that Zibbet is the one talking there.
And getting involved in personal spats while using the Zibbet name is a bad reflection on all Zibbet sellers.
When I say something I am speaking for myself. But if I did it with an account using the Zibbet name..... then one would assume I was speaking for the whole community.
I believe in speaking your mind..... but perhaps doing those things under a personal account would serve a much better purpose business wise for all involved in the venue.
It makes no sense to be running off more potential buyers and sellers with these type of public displays....
especially now that almost every time you blink more drama keeps unfolding.
No wonder so many are avoiding those forums like the plague.
And for all of the people who have worked so hard setting up shops and promoting and doing everything they possibly can to make their shops successful there......it is really sad to see what is unfolding day by day.
#Zibbet
I'm wondering if she is aware that many are comparing her posts to the melt down and the Cra Cra that happened at TCS.
To an outsider..reading "Team Zibbet" one would obviously think that Zibbet is the one talking there.
And getting involved in personal spats while using the Zibbet name is a bad reflection on all Zibbet sellers.
When I say something I am speaking for myself. But if I did it with an account using the Zibbet name..... then one would assume I was speaking for the whole community.
I believe in speaking your mind..... but perhaps doing those things under a personal account would serve a much better purpose business wise for all involved in the venue.
It makes no sense to be running off more potential buyers and sellers with these type of public displays....
especially now that almost every time you blink more drama keeps unfolding.
No wonder so many are avoiding those forums like the plague.
And for all of the people who have worked so hard setting up shops and promoting and doing everything they possibly can to make their shops successful there......it is really sad to see what is unfolding day by day.
#Zibbet
Wednesday, January 22, 2014
Okay so just call me the rainbow farter already okay why don't cha
So bottom line.... it's their site (Zibbet) and they can pretty much do what they want with their forums and venue...most have pretty much figured that out just like Etsy and eBay can do what they want and make whatever rules they want to apply.
I prefer to keep things simple and feel that too many rules just creates more problems...but that's just me. I mean you take a thing like the Ten Commandments..... something that a lot of people try to live their lives by. Throughout time many changes have occured since those commandments were written down but those basic rules are enough to try and follow. If you mess up and break one....are you shunned or cast out ? Nope.... you learn from your mistakes hopefully and try to be a better person. Most people have a sense of right and wrong and those who are going to cause trouble and cross the line will do that no matter how many rules or regulations are in place.
There is nothing wrong with being positive or being a cup cake. Heck I've been known to fart a few rainbows in my life time :=) .
The fall-out in the Zibbet forums to me had nothing to do with people being too positive..... but instead what seemed to happen is that a few people used the guise of being positive whilst they carried on some very negative snarky comments towards others...and yet would tell themselves.... "Oh they don't like me because I am too positive...or they are picking on me because I am a positive person". And I didn't see it that way at all. The problem was the people who were negative to others they didn't feel were being positive enough and in my opinion they created more negativity by their actions and words. You also had some people who feel it is okay to attack others with their words but cry wolf the minute they think someone might be saying something negative towards them.
The thing is that the majority of people on any selling venue do not hang out in the forums. But they do check out the forums upon first arriving to the venue.... I would think they do at least....and many at this point might even base a decision on whether to stick around or whether or not to ever post anything upon their first impression of the forum. And although I really like the fact that so far Jonathan and Andrew have the time and ability to be very hands on with Zibbeters... it seems that lately every time Andrew makes an announcement in the forums that he alienates more people... and as someone stated "They're damned if they do and damned if they don't."
One thing that does happen on any forum is that often the closed threads and the "muted" ones end up being the most vocal and garnering more attention. The google searches on some closed threads show up way higher in the ranking than the most popular viewed threads that are still running. It can not be an easy job for either of them trying to stay neutral in forum situations and to not take sides----- but to me the site will fare much better if they can find a way to stay out of these situations and to stop adding fuel to the fire.
The thing is... if you look back at places like Etsy and eBay....when they started out and were growing...what made them grow? Basically it was the sellers meeting and forming relationships and buying from one another. If that had not occured neither site would have grown like they did. So at this point... when new people come to Zibbet and list their items and if they are not selling much or haven't sold anything yet.... what is the one thing that would keep them hanging around? Well... the forums for one just might do the trick if they were having fun or just feeling a bit of a connection.
And I would imagine that Andrew probably gets his feelings hurt when people don't agree with him. Being a pastor and all he's probably used to hearing "Amen!" and having total support when he speaks. You would also have to think that they started this venue with the intentions of making $ and selling it someday to an interested venture company. So people are not only looking at the sellers on Zibbet....they are also looking at the owners and the direction the site is headed.
And the good thing about one step forward and two steps back is that you can still go forward. I'm not sure if they will ever see a huge influx of people like the one that happened after that Town Hall meeting.....
but making the site more user friendly and sellers having sales there will surely be the thing that will make more sellers become more active in promoting the venue. Still have fingers crossed and waiting for the rebuild to roll-out.....and in the meantime I am hoping that a happy medium will be found in the fora land there =)
I prefer to keep things simple and feel that too many rules just creates more problems...but that's just me. I mean you take a thing like the Ten Commandments..... something that a lot of people try to live their lives by. Throughout time many changes have occured since those commandments were written down but those basic rules are enough to try and follow. If you mess up and break one....are you shunned or cast out ? Nope.... you learn from your mistakes hopefully and try to be a better person. Most people have a sense of right and wrong and those who are going to cause trouble and cross the line will do that no matter how many rules or regulations are in place.
There is nothing wrong with being positive or being a cup cake. Heck I've been known to fart a few rainbows in my life time :=) .
The fall-out in the Zibbet forums to me had nothing to do with people being too positive..... but instead what seemed to happen is that a few people used the guise of being positive whilst they carried on some very negative snarky comments towards others...and yet would tell themselves.... "Oh they don't like me because I am too positive...or they are picking on me because I am a positive person". And I didn't see it that way at all. The problem was the people who were negative to others they didn't feel were being positive enough and in my opinion they created more negativity by their actions and words. You also had some people who feel it is okay to attack others with their words but cry wolf the minute they think someone might be saying something negative towards them.
The thing is that the majority of people on any selling venue do not hang out in the forums. But they do check out the forums upon first arriving to the venue.... I would think they do at least....and many at this point might even base a decision on whether to stick around or whether or not to ever post anything upon their first impression of the forum. And although I really like the fact that so far Jonathan and Andrew have the time and ability to be very hands on with Zibbeters... it seems that lately every time Andrew makes an announcement in the forums that he alienates more people... and as someone stated "They're damned if they do and damned if they don't."
One thing that does happen on any forum is that often the closed threads and the "muted" ones end up being the most vocal and garnering more attention. The google searches on some closed threads show up way higher in the ranking than the most popular viewed threads that are still running. It can not be an easy job for either of them trying to stay neutral in forum situations and to not take sides----- but to me the site will fare much better if they can find a way to stay out of these situations and to stop adding fuel to the fire.
The thing is... if you look back at places like Etsy and eBay....when they started out and were growing...what made them grow? Basically it was the sellers meeting and forming relationships and buying from one another. If that had not occured neither site would have grown like they did. So at this point... when new people come to Zibbet and list their items and if they are not selling much or haven't sold anything yet.... what is the one thing that would keep them hanging around? Well... the forums for one just might do the trick if they were having fun or just feeling a bit of a connection.
And I would imagine that Andrew probably gets his feelings hurt when people don't agree with him. Being a pastor and all he's probably used to hearing "Amen!" and having total support when he speaks. You would also have to think that they started this venue with the intentions of making $ and selling it someday to an interested venture company. So people are not only looking at the sellers on Zibbet....they are also looking at the owners and the direction the site is headed.
And the good thing about one step forward and two steps back is that you can still go forward. I'm not sure if they will ever see a huge influx of people like the one that happened after that Town Hall meeting.....
but making the site more user friendly and sellers having sales there will surely be the thing that will make more sellers become more active in promoting the venue. Still have fingers crossed and waiting for the rebuild to roll-out.....and in the meantime I am hoping that a happy medium will be found in the fora land there =)
Tuesday, January 21, 2014
Dear Zibbet let's Squash the Us Vs Them mentality in our quest for moving forward...shall we? Who is them if it isn't Us?
I am happy that Zibbet is taking the steps to move forward and get er done.....
as I just saw more forum changes for us to now expect.....
I felt I needed to re-post and expand on the comment I made below ---
as a new post to start here....
I basically said this......
I am not ever sure which "us" I fall into as I like a lot of different people who apparently when they are all thrown in the same spot together.....some of them don't like each other.
But these type of things happen on any Forum or venue and no one with good intentions should ever take it upon themselves to figure it all out.
People are people....they make mistakes.....they say things that are taken in manner that they didn't originally intend.
Bottom line....
I don't need to get caught up in all of that.....I will not choose sides in other peoples' drama
my business is to keep track of who I have dealt with who treated me right and my business is that I can like people that other people don't like without being afraid that someone in a certain group will now not like me because I like someone that their group or team does not like.
We do not need forum police or us vs them ever.
No one knows who us or them is when you are accepting of the entire community.
dear Zibbet..... most of the time sellers are smart enough to work these things out amongst themselves.....
one recent example that I found amusing and also made me smile.....
in a weekly "chat" one of the teams I am on there agreed to meet up and chat for an hour.... in the time we were there two sellers who were not on our team got in a very heated discussion where one ended up calling the other one a TWAT.... seriously.... we were like uhhhhhh....what was that all about.????
So a few weeks later imagine my smile....when I saw that these 2 sellers were wishing each other Merry Christmas or Happy New Year or one or the other....
bottom line....
they worked it out.
Most people are capable of doing that without a ton of rules in place.
And the ones who can't do this sort of thing.....
well
they don't tend to abide by anyone's rules other than their own to begin with.....
so why more rules?
Oh why oh why oh why????
Sometimes the more things change the more they seem to try and acclimate to everything else out there and the thing that seemed to make them different in the 1st place is the thing that they can not seem to hold onto and think it is worth it to make it better.
Just my opinion.
#zibbet #forumcupcakes #usvsthem #whoisthem?
as I just saw more forum changes for us to now expect.....
I felt I needed to re-post and expand on the comment I made below ---
as a new post to start here....
I basically said this......
I am not ever sure which "us" I fall into as I like a lot of different people who apparently when they are all thrown in the same spot together.....some of them don't like each other.
But these type of things happen on any Forum or venue and no one with good intentions should ever take it upon themselves to figure it all out.
People are people....they make mistakes.....they say things that are taken in manner that they didn't originally intend.
Bottom line....
I don't need to get caught up in all of that.....I will not choose sides in other peoples' drama
my business is to keep track of who I have dealt with who treated me right and my business is that I can like people that other people don't like without being afraid that someone in a certain group will now not like me because I like someone that their group or team does not like.
We do not need forum police or us vs them ever.
No one knows who us or them is when you are accepting of the entire community.
dear Zibbet..... most of the time sellers are smart enough to work these things out amongst themselves.....
one recent example that I found amusing and also made me smile.....
in a weekly "chat" one of the teams I am on there agreed to meet up and chat for an hour.... in the time we were there two sellers who were not on our team got in a very heated discussion where one ended up calling the other one a TWAT.... seriously.... we were like uhhhhhh....what was that all about.????
So a few weeks later imagine my smile....when I saw that these 2 sellers were wishing each other Merry Christmas or Happy New Year or one or the other....
bottom line....
they worked it out.
Most people are capable of doing that without a ton of rules in place.
And the ones who can't do this sort of thing.....
well
they don't tend to abide by anyone's rules other than their own to begin with.....
so why more rules?
Oh why oh why oh why????
Sometimes the more things change the more they seem to try and acclimate to everything else out there and the thing that seemed to make them different in the 1st place is the thing that they can not seem to hold onto and think it is worth it to make it better.
Just my opinion.
#zibbet #forumcupcakes #usvsthem #whoisthem?
The Hook of Love Antique vintage Valentine
I can't tell you how much I love this little antique Valentine Postcard.
It is unused and in excellent condition and I haven't been able to part with it just yet :=)
I wanted to share the scan of it here for you to use in your craft projects. I hope you will enjoy it as much as I have over the years.
It is unused and in excellent condition and I haven't been able to part with it just yet :=)
I wanted to share the scan of it here for you to use in your craft projects. I hope you will enjoy it as much as I have over the years.
I'll Always Protect you vintage valentine
Hope this vintage Valentine helps you bust a mooooove on having a great day :)
#bustamove #oldcows #valentinelove #vintagevalentine #spankyluvsvintage
Monday, January 20, 2014
Vintage Valentine... could you carrot all about me?
(have you hugged your white rabbit today? )
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Fun veggy vintage Valentine from Forget Me Not Cards.Two cute carrots cavorting and bringing a little fresh to the table.
The Valentine has a little tear at the bottom edge as it is the type that you hook the notches so it will stand up. Overall very bright and good condition.
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