#Zibbet people and some certain sheeples Can We Talk?

First of all because I used the "Can We Talk?" I am going to do a little upfront Joan Rivers Hollah ! with this little Rhonda ramble can we just talk here?
I almost hate to mention Joan Rivers in the same sentence as Zibbet because Joan is and was the Bomb.....and Zibbet could only wish to be the Bomb....instead of what I think is a huge B-U-S-T at this point.
Back in the 70's/80's.....my younger bro had a Go-Kart shop and I used to announce the races and some of the tracks would have me travel around to announce the I.K.F. circuit races. In one of their magazines I was referred to as "The Joan Rivers of the I.K.F. Circuit" and I was really honored to be compared to this wonderful talented comedian. I guess I have always had this rather strange gift of finding ways to laugh about the worst of situations. Sometimes we just have to call a spade a spade and see where the card lands.
Joan was/is an American Icon. Will truly miss seeing what she has to say next.
So enough said about that splanation I suppose.
What I want to talk about (yes again) is the Zibbet "you just couldn't make this stuff up even if you tried."
Okay.... so most people out there are of the same "Consensus" that being one---that most feel that the long awaited and anticipated and overblown talked about "Rebuild" has so far been a huge failure and B-U-S-T.... and they also agree with the fact that this "inappropriate TIMING" of announcing their new "Lifetime--get it while it lasts once in a lifetime offers" was almost a slap in the face to those who have patiently waited for so long for Zibbet to get this ball rolling.
We know that Zibbet powers that be removed all links to the Hub in the rebuild and any actual "sales links" --YEP---basically all links to finding how successful any sellers might be there.
What is really sad to me is that even though the Hub is a ghost town these days as was long ago predicted.....
Can we talk for just a minute here about one of the forum handmaidens who in my opinion has gotten waaaay toooo dad gum big for her britches?
Now just as a #ZibbetFlash for me.....
I recall this one certain poster who once went to a thread I posted about the fact that Zibbet Cheerleaders come in many shapes and forms.
This person went into the thread and thanked me and certain others and then went back and removed her posts because that is what you could do in those old forums....not sure if you can do it now.....
but seeing her do that made me realize just how wishy washy she was and is.
And that was waaaaay before I had my Zibbet Epiphany that it was time for me to get the Hell out of Dodge.
All I know is that from my own experience with this person that I actually used to respect....once I saw her actions on that one thread alone-----
I lost all respect for one who in my opinion is so wishy washy.
And that is my opinion and I am sticking to it here LOL!
Sad thing to me is that she is still there passing so much "judgment" about anyone in that hub these days who has a different opinion than hers.....
and I know from viewing her profile pics that she is a big gal ---(but shut the front door she has definitely grown some mighty Bossy Britches over there.) yes Indeedy! Amen!
And her "accusation" about some who follow others to other venues? Well jeeps....one must certainly hope that this Big-UN  will some day look in the mirror and call it for what it really is LOL!
I am posting this tonight because I know that many of the so called "Bad Humans" posts and threads and opinions now come up every time anyone might happen to Google Zibbet (if by some miracle they have actually heard of the venue LOL) Her lies alone in my opinion need to be kept in check. And yep that is why we are having this "Talk" here.
LOL!!!!!
For example....the thread over in that Hub regarding the crappy arsed Zibbet font.
Bottom line.... you do not have to have any sort of an eye handicap or illness whatsoever.
The fact is that most people who can see actually "SAW" that the font did not get "darker"...the Z boyzz did not fix that yet. I still have 20-20 vision with the help from my Optometrist Hee-hee.....
but the fact that the Zibbet font still sucks is not a Fanflamer issue.
It is not even a topic that needs to cause so much drama in those forums.
It is simply a fact and it needs to be fixed.
And it still hasn't.
That's a FACT.
And here's an even harder fact if anyone in that Hub chooses to look outside of that "Box"....most people in Cyberville are never gonna find Zibbet because at this point...
there's not a lot of advertisement or even unified effort from all of those so called "creatives" to share the #ZibbetLove.
The fact is that less than 20 people "Flashing" in that hub are not going to grow any venue any time soon.
And hate to break this to ya......
but if anyone new out there happens to for some unknown "miracle" land on the new Zibbet....if they can not read the font....they are gonna walk away and Pasadena quicker than ya'll can say "P-A-S-A-D-E-N-A"
And finally here's one last clue....to those of ya'll still in that Hub who are acting as formerly predicted here...like a group of Piranha's just waiting to take a nibble on anyone who offers up a different opinion than yours....wake up!!!! ( the very few still left there......)
you are chewing and eating away at whatever lifeline you think you still have there.
The Zibbet Flash group that is what? How many members weak? at this point is in my opinion.....still killing any chance for Zibbet to become something better and grow.
And if you would just let the small group of people still in that Hub simply talk about it without being accused of being some sort of #badhuman or equated to being some sort of workplace #massmurderers........
maybe just maybe.....
some still there spending lots and lots of time still trying to get their shops to work and load properly and to have their pictures look okay......
maybe some of ya'll wearing those Grand Poohbah hats if you would just shut up and offer some kind of support to everyone there.....
dayum.....
ya'll just might get a lifeline on that ship that is rapidly sinking more and more each day.
hint-hint :=)

Postcard from the Zibbet Hub edge could be crib notes from a fly on the wall

What some people think about "loose" and howz that Gerbil in yer butt feeling today? #Zibbet

You know that certain story about the certain actor who had a gerbil stuck up his butt and had to go to the emergency room to have it removed?...........................
well that's the certain kind of  uncomfortable feeling 
I would "picture"some of those Z handmaidens must feel every time another Zibbet truth comes out or every time they lose another one of their faithful forum followers.
Uncomfortable  indeed!
I can't imagine any other reason they would continue to enforce the farce that is right there if one simply chooses to connect the dots.
Many many sellers who have left that venue worked so gosh darn hard promoting it and their fellow sellers at the time there.
With little to no success.
Now some of the statements they (heavenly Handmaidens) are making about how Zibbet is now a vital marketplace and that Etsy is dying and has already seen it's hey day  is laughable to say the least.
I would think any one who cares to follow the dots
 (without even trying to connect them )
would first look at the founder of Etsy and his original mission which was to truly create an independent seller maker market.
The Zibbet founders?  Well one might look at all of the links and see that they pretty much like to create start-ups with the hopes of selling them to investors. Yes it is a fact that  Etsy did see huge growth and changes once the venture capitalists came into play..... but most have come to the realization that Zibbet will probably never get interesting enough to capture the investor interest.
Bottom line
(#Agent Gerbil whisperers)
PPPPSSSSSTTTTTTTTTTTT......

They (Zibbet) already blew the chances of that.
And it would take a miracle to ever get the huge influx of sellers or "believers" that already came saw and left .
Hello?
there are no other venues to draw disgruntled sellers from....and your pool of leapers from Etsy has already dried up.
I guess that is the only thing that has really died at Etsy.
Any type of enthusiasm for Zibbet whatsoever.
(And there never was much in the 1st place)
And people in those forums who want to talk about "Oh we have new members signing up and are growing"  certainly don't want to talk about that Elephant in the Zibbet room...........Namely~~~~
All of the people who left the venue in droves after flooding the site last Fall.
Why did they leave?
They were not selling enough to compensate for all of the time they were wasting there.
And of course there were those who did not want C-3 ties to their business.
And those who promptly left after they witnessed just how professional those in charge were when it came to handling any type of influx of sellers.
And those who finally simply heard enough excuses and back peddling.
Of course there are also those who had quite easily connected some of the dots and woke up one day and realized that it doesn't matter what may (or may not)  happen over there now.....
they have already seen enough of Zibbet past that they have no desire to be any part of whatever the future may bring.
Yes... there are still Some who think it may still actually happen one day .
(A true Zibbet Revival )
Baby steps.  Little Baby gerbil steps and all.
So I guess one of the questions for today would be
Would you rather ("quote" from another seller)
"loose your banner"?
or "quote" (from me mahself and moi......)
"Would you rather act like you had an uncomfortable gerbil running loose inside yer butt and you didn't quite know what your next slim shady sideways shift will be?"
Cheers to correct shifts and balances :=)

Dearest Zibbet handmaidens Andy's plants have seemingly sprouted and a bit more about some truly #badhumans

Yep yes sir ree...the Zibbet Circus snake oil Handmaiden side show  subject has about lost it's relevance.
But today I still find it quite interesting when original hidey hole members at Zibbet get cast away from the fold and start speaking their minds and true feelings about their overall Zibbet experience.
I mean... I still realize that for some of them thar die hard handmaidens....a SCANDAL occurs every time they even sense a bit of a whiff of wind underneath their skirts.
What I still to this very day fail to understand or even comprehend is why why why...must they make up chit and call others "bad" people/humans etc. etc. and make up lies about what has been going on for quite some time.??????
First and foremost.......
new people (if there are actually still any new Zibbeters who may be reading this today).............
come on let's face it.......
Zibbet has seemingly relied on collecting disgruntled sellers from other venues in hopes that they will eventually pay $ to become a premium seller on the Zibbet site. But the hard and sad fact today is that.............
Etsy seems to be the game in town where sellers can still actually sell some things......
and the talk about Zibbet in those forums is not at all very favorable. 
Bottom line....
not much hope of them ever getting any type of momentum like they had last Fall and essentially BLEW IT.
HANDS DOWN
BLEW IT.
Been there did that.....
went on their vacation retreat
stuck a few " post its" up on the wall
and blew it.
Of course Jonos' past connection to Dinars to Dollars and Andys' connections with how to build C3 "plants" didn't actually help matters much.
But today.....
the perplexing thing to me is this...........
why do those who once were so called "friends" and so called "So welcoming" still continue to make up and create all of those lies about former members who flounced or were bounced?
A friend of mine made the statement that it has been quite a side show on seeing how the "most recently appointed"  handmaidens have stepped up into those forums and evolved into something we never thought they could have been.
Laughable to say the least.
I recently saw this post about one asking about a horror movie from the past and to me...there seem to be quite a few Zibbet correlations  here LOL!

Old horror movie where people are turned into monsters by machine

by Drenus
(Czech Republic)

I was very young when I saw this movie (late 90s). It was during a bus ride on a school trip (I do not know why did they show such thing to children like me anyway). I do not remember the movie name and it has been bugging me since that time.

I remember only few things:

1) There was a machine operating at night with something like a huge arm that was sucking in curious people around it (and then they were mashed up into pieces and throwed away from the machine - but I am not sure about this part` maybe it is from another movie or I just made it up somehow)

2) I am 100 % sure that this part was in the movie. There was an evil guy (probably in black?) that used his device that looked like a big chair (with some kind of a helmet) to transform people into monsters (with a dinosaur-like head or something like that) using electric discharges.

The monsters obeyed the evil guy.

3) I remember escaping a group of people (4 to 6) through tunnels using a pad or something that could ride very quickly. They were hunted by the monsters on another pad.

I think that they were jumping from one end of the tunnel to another where were icicles or stalactites at the opening.

One man from the group put a spanner during the ride on the pad in a hole in the tunnel to stop the monsters behind them.

Okay..... so from the above "post" that to me could really be a Zibbet difference story LOL!  anywhoo...the part where it said
The monsters obeyed the evil guy.
This to me is what I think about when I think of the remaining Zibbet Handmaidens.
ToTaLLy Fo Shizzle!
(and can I get an Amen!) ?
All I can say about this today....
is come on those of you in the Zibbet hubs still spreading the lies and denies............
you don't have to be the monsters that others are thinking you are now acting like.
For example...
simply calling someone a "Bad Human"
does not lift you out of the Monster Pool.
Consider that for a second and by the way.....
that wind under your handmaiden skirt might perhaps simply be a brain fart......
but no worries.....
the cure for Zibberts brain farts from what I have seen lately is evidently drinking some more of that tasty Kool-Aide  LOL!
carry on dear maidens........
carry on.

Reflections on a few issues regarding Zibbet because I used to care that much

So a friend of mine posted a link to a blog post that was just shared on Twitter from way back in February that I had missed and honestly would have never cared to look but what I find quite interesting today is that this Zibbeter has gone rather quiet about supporting Zibbet these days...and seems to be busier back at Etsy and on her own website.
And this is the thing
I understand.... I know that I myself used to be such a full blown Zibbet cheerleader.
Hard core and all in back then....perhaps 
yet-------------
Handmaiden? Never.
(key word N-e-v-e-r :D)
So recently on eBay when another Zibbet deflector and I were having conversations she very nicely reminded me that "Hey...you were once a Zibbet cheerleader yourself."
Okay so that kind of put it all into perspective LOL!
The link to this blog post in February had some points that I am pretty certain those still supporting Zibbet may feel...
these are a few excerpts.....
---------------------------------------------------------------
What I do have issue with is people trying to drag my business down because they are unhappy with the venue. This kind of behavior is very unprofessional. I would not buy from someone who was constantly doing this.
What I have issue with is name calling on Twitter saying that because I sell on Zibbet that I’m a member of a cult.
What I have issue with is complaining that the website rebuild was not delivered ‘as promised’.
Something apparently happened in the Zibbet forums recently and people were booted. I’m not sure what the deal was but there are certain people who can’t seem to let it go. I’ve seen post after post on Twitter about it. Very mysterious posts without much detail because -you know 144 characters. I’ve never felt like asking because I don’t really care that much. 
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Okay.... so I thought it might be a good idea at this point to answer to some of these thoughts...
the above blogger said
I would not buy from someone who was constantly doing this.
well news flash....
if people were buying from Zibbet sellers there wouldn't be so many frustrated people right now who wasted so much time there... I repeat....news flash....dear blogger.....you obviously didn't buy from them before they got discontented with the venue so I hardly would think they give a care that you also would not buy from them now. 
Wink-WINK
LOL!
The second topic....
that because I sell on Zibbet that I’m a member of a cult.
this is a pretty C3 centralized touchy subject. I understand that.
Many many sellers don't give a care if the Ceo's worship midgets wearing tutu's whilst prancing around in front of an alter.  Seriously....that was never the issue even though Andy made a huge mistake linking his twitter account to his personal tweets and we all know how that went down.  (Down being the operative word here) yep.  The problem with this whole situation for any out there who might be questioning this still is that Andy himself went on those Zibbet forums and actually stated that they would be watching what others were saying outside of Zibbet.  And then members started getting axed from the hub not for anything they had ever done on Zibbet but it seemed the only other reason was because of what they said or who they were suspected of being friends with on other social media.
So to make this more clear.  Here's an example.  I don't personally know Chad at Etsy.  I have never had a conversation with him. But the Ceo's at Zibbet made it all personal.  So it does make one talk more about their personal lives.  Heck....Andy even went in and announced the newborn on the thread where there was disappointment about sales or something. So if Andy wants to talk about personal stuff....then guess what?  OOpsie.....the personal door has been opened...and the last time I looked this is not a one way street.  Key phrase "not a one way street".
Next....
Why one earth would any seller trying to sell something say AnYtHiNg like----
What I have issue with is complaining that the website rebuild was not delivered ‘as promised’.

to me this would be a no-brainer.....if peeps feel they have been frauded or snookered.....or hustled or whatever......

of course they are gonna talk about it if the customer service at Zibbet has not taken it upon themselves to try and resolve whatever complaints they may have.

Businesses anywhere first and foremost do everything they can to take care of customer complaints.

That's how businesses tend to thrive out here in the real world.

Key word "thrive".

And last but certainly not least..the above blogger said this

Something apparently happened in the Zibbet forums recently and people were booted. I’m not sure what the deal was but there are certain people who can’t seem to let it go. I’ve seen post after post on Twitter about it. Very mysterious posts without much detail because -you know 144 characters. I’ve never felt like asking because I don’t really care that much. 

Okay.... I have said it a kazillion times....everyone makes mistakes.

But why can't certain people let it go?  Well..... my guess is that they simply feel like they were TOTALLY hosed.

Bottom line HOSED.

(And in recent light of certain closed-forum name calling a new Zibbet hashtag on Twitter could indeed be

 #badhumanhosed :D )

And when the blogger said

. I’ve never felt like asking because I don’t really care that much. 

Here's what most people might think upon reading your post....

gee hun....you obviously cared enough to write a dadgum blog post about said topic right?

And guess what else?  You might care a little bit more if you knew that what is said to have happened had actually happened to you.

I know that I use this example quite often simply because I think it is one that will make people think about their NON actions.

You know what happens when no one cares until it starts happening to them?

Well jeeps.....

the death camps at Auschwitz..for starters.

And for those still out there thinking OhmahGAWD.....

why won't these people just stop it?

Newsflash.....

more people are waking up

more people are really looking into the truth provided.

and more people are leaving the venue in droves.

Key phrase "droves"

And yep.... that dinars to dollahs and the C-3 hollahs and they way these boyzzz roll when you start asking the wrong questions might indeed have something to do about it.

And one last thing....

any of ya'll Zibbet flashing still there who keep thinking about how many views you are getting but oh geeee..........no or few sales????????.............

you might want to check into the deal about "Bot" views.

seriously.

Keep yer eyes peeled and your heart real.

Word.

Maybe they've finally figured out how to get Zibbet trending on Twitter!

First of all..... full disclosure.... I borrowed that title phrase from a friend of mine.....and it made me laugh but so ironic that you just couldn't make this chit up even if you tried kind of thang.
(I'd also add that this made me think of Kamikaze Zibbet Style)
Did the admins at Zibbet drop zeee bomb or pull the plug on the ship?
They sent someone in to say she was tired of being tag teamed picked on and mistreated...or whatever that was....
and fact is most people in the cyber world kind of look at this one as the pouncer and bouncer over there in the Z hub who tells everyone else about how vile and viperish they are acting.
whatever...
 the side bets are
#1-this Zibbet handmaiden has already served her purpose and people there are tired of what she keeps saying....
#2-Andy and Jon sent her in as a sacrifice for the venue to create some sort of NON drama about supposedly being "attacked" and now she really is outie there.
I mean I know all about Kamikaze Pilot situations so I'd say if she is really gone...that dive she took without the helmet deserves at least a couple of seconds of internet fame hey?
The night the lights went out in Georgia (insert Zibbet hub)...insert they hung an innocent man with (someone said they got hung but from the outside looking in appeared as though not so nicey was always in fact kind of hung on herself ) and yep....maybe had a secret kind of love thang obsession for the powers that be... but hey....pure speculation on that handmaiden obsession speculation that keeps circulating out here in cyber land.
So long story short.....
Because we all know how RUMORS get started over there and some really need to be taken with a grain of salt kind of thang...
anywhooo
they evidently closed the hub after shutting down the "rebuild thread"
What is it about this rebuild forever and ever question that continues to cause so dog gone much turmoil and angst over there ?  Well awhile ago (key phrase "awhile ago") someone said something about how they could have already rebuilt the elusive rebuild at this point. Seriously. They really could have.
And why beat around the bush?
Why close off a forum to all new people landing there?
Why do that kind of thing to sellers who are promoting that venue until their bush is blue and dragging? They have busted their bush promoting a venue and working on their shops and basically 
BOTTOM LINE BUSTING BUSH....
for what?
Oh bright idea....
CLEVER
(NOT)
anyone who googles Zibbet
now has to sign up 
when they land in the community to find out about it?
Damn cookie.....
beat my bush and shut the front door
the last time I looked the only people who would actually sign up for anything would actually want to view the "community" or whatever it was called before they would sign up to see anything at all.
Sellers just got another shot in the foot before they had a chance out of that rebuild gate jump start so many were still hoping for.
Placing more restrictions on a site that is already not being seen and where sellers are not getting sales because of little to no traffic?
Who thought this one up?
I would have to place my bet......
not on those 2 new site techs (they said they hired.)
Most people would realize that the way to get business is to make it as easy as possible for people to become acquainted with said venue.
And the day when Ceo's and what is left of the certain group of forum runners decide to get all pissy pants and say
"Boo hoo you have to be a member before you can see what is going on around here"
Damn.... that kind of stinks like more hidey holes and behind the scenes kind of things that in no way shape or form benefits the sellers there who are trying their darndest to sell their wares.
But the $79 or is it $89 now dollar question????
Who does it benefit?
Yep this kind of move (in my opinion) does indeed benefit the CEO's who are in the market of selling Premium seller accounts. And Ceo's who by the way do not currently benefit from Final Value Fee sales from Sellers there.
And some of those people out there who continually want to call some people vile and vipers and all of that spam....
for simply questioning the Zibbet plan and actions up until this point.
I still stick to my opinion and say that there never would have been a problem in the first place if people would have simply admitted their mistakes and been honest.
Seems that when that huge influx of sellers came last Fall and gave that Premium seller $ because they truly believed in the heart of the venue......
many of those experienced ones who could have truly brought the site to the next level...
bottom line
they came
they saw
they left
yep.... I said it awhile back
the momentum has indeed left the building.
But I will say this tonite
this recent "closed community" move
well.....it further kills any chance 
of more sellers 
or Buyers (GASP)
to land in the first place.
And tonite.....
yep they might have finally figured out how to get Zibbet trending on Twitter....
and it was because a bomb got dropped in the forums
not due to a Twitter bomb
gotta go clutch some more of my pearls peeps...
seriously best wishes to all sellers still doing their damndest to try and sell something there.


Jonathan Peacock (Zibbet's CEO)replied to HeirloomAngel (Angela)'sdiscussion Forum Visibility

"The Community Hub is currently closed to members only. Any Zibbet seller is welcome to become a member to view and participate in the forum (participation is not required).Any sellers that have been suspended from the community for misconduct will…"

Questionable respectful behavior and no wonder so many rumors get started at Zibbet

I thought a bit about posting this because combating negative energy is often  a time suck regardless of how good your intentions are.
I just have to say that after thinking about this... the situation kind of reminds me of that old "telephone game"....someone whispers something in someone's ear and it gets whispered to many others on down the line and the outcome of the conversation is nowhere even close to what actually happened.
There are a lot of "rumored" whispers over there in the Z forums.  Certain  folks are pretty good over there at saying things like "I heard" or "I suppose" and then suddenly it becomes "Fact" after a few others repeat and add to the story.  Not sure why this happens. (Although if I were a betting woman I'd have to place a bet on the fact that from my own personal experience...the most gossipy judgmental and "slam talking" groups of people I have ever known seem to have been gathered in certain congregations on Sundays....if you get my drift) wink-wink.  
Yep there I said it.... I would have to think that a certain group of ya'll over there simply like to gossip and there's not much happening there so things naturally have a way of "making themselves up".... Now when you add to that mix a certain CEO who likes to hang out in the hidey holes and encourages the behavior of changing up conversations....this fact simply makes the whole rumor mill get even bigger and BOLDER.
Okay....let's just use this for example.....
a certain person made a thread the other day about respect....
I then made a blog post here that had a couple of comments from her thread and someone else I know also had a conversation with this same person on Twitter.  Now as far as I could see..... there was never any ill will or malice towards this person at all. 
And there-in lies one of the problems as far as I can tell.
Whenever someone says something negative about Zibbet or simply questions things that are or most often are not (happening).... certain people over there in Zibbet land take it all too personally.
No one is out to get them.  But the paranoia seems to have risen higher than the tides.
So the one from the respect thread made some comments about a person bidding on her items elsewhere and blogging about it.  Well... I didn't blog about bidding on her items....but when I checked eBay I searched through my pages of bids and found where I had bid from her shop there.  And since she had stated that someone was blogging.... I thought she may have been talking about me....so I sent her a message on eBay and told her shame on her for ever insinuating that malice was intended (if she was talking about me.) Did not get an answer back... so maybe she wasn't talking about me and didn't have a clue what I was referring to. But it bothered me if she was in fact trying to create drama where there was indeed no drama whatsoever.
And the reason why I considered that she might be some sort of a drama queen fabricator (because I really do not know this person)....
anywhoo she had also stated in her thread that..

Make no mistake, THIS is the kind of behavior that has driven people to silence; the fear of retribution; NOT posts like this one. Take note: I am not the first person this has happened to; I am simply one of many. In November, I watched a very helpful and knowledgeable member of this community get attacked and drug all around the forums (called names, cursed at, etc.) for a completely innocent comment that was twisted beyond recognition. (After all, if you repeat something enough, people believe it, right? Pay attention, because this is the pattern: Twist, attack, repeat...repeat, repeat, repeat...) Not long after that, another member was flat out accused of being a liar because of wanting to start a private group where she could talk openly about health issues and everyday life with her friends, without feeling as though she was under a microscope. I know for a fact that this person had every intention of starting that group, as she and I had discussed it prior to her mentioning it in public. After that attack, she would not open the group. She was attacked via social media, blogs and other website forums until she had to get an attorney involved. In the end, she too left the community and the site. 


Okay..... now maybe there was a big bunch of drama that I might have missed in those forums.  But who was attacked and drug all around those forums and cursed at?  Seems a bit over dramatic to me...but like I said maybe I missed this "drama".

 I would really like to see some proof of the cursing and attacking and dragging tho. I really would.  Because in reality this could very well simply be something that never happened in the first place....perhaps it could be those gossipy gals playing that telephone game of---make something up and pass it on to others but 1st add more to it assumptions "Maybe" "I heard " "I suppose" "someone supposedly said"  kind of carp that they seem to do so well.

Gheez I don't know what the deal is with that stuff ^^^^^^

I do know this.  I know who she is talking about in her second "example"....  and this is what most people who can actually see and read out here in cyberville saw.....

the person talked in that thread about her "personal reasons"  for wanting to start a "private" group.  But the real deal was that the thread was actually started because word on the street had gotten out about how the CEO Andy and the handmaidens were in that private hidey hole plotting and talking about other forum members. That was a fact that had several screen shots long before they made that little hidey hole public for a bit until they realized they hadn't quite purged and cleansed it enough.

But no worries..... the secret was already out and the "private group" thread was started and had nothing to do with the person mentioned above...nor her desire to start a private group to talk privately about her illnesses.   

And this to me is the biggest bunch of carp "speculation rumor" that I saw in the above statement from the person who made the statement above.....she said this....

She was attacked via social media, blogs and other website forums until she had to get an attorney involved. In the end, she too left the community and the site. 

WOW just wow!!!! are you really serious?  Because the last time everyone out here looked..... the person you are talking about actually left Zibbet because she became aware of the fact that the CEO's had knowledge of a certain forum member and what they were doing behind the scenes.... you know the one who was "attacking people" and actually saying mean things?  The CEO's did nothing about this persons' behavior until it became so public that they had to do something to save face....they were given ample opportunity to do the right thing and chose to do their own thing instead until they finally had to do something.  Now that is a fact.

 Take it to the bank F-A-C-T.

The person you are talking about left Zibbet because in her words "Her eyes had been opened"...she was extremely disappointed to learn that this was how they operate....and she left to open up her shop on another venue because she had business ethics that were not being met at Zibbet.  To say that she left because people treated her unfairly is a dirty down right lie. How someone thinks they could spin this situation and make it a whole new story is beyond me.  The person wrote about it in her blog....her posts have had screen shots and shared. Her words are still there on her blog.  She left the venue not because she was attacked.....HELLO?????

She left because she opened her eyes!She stated that "I left because I did not want my business associated with Zibbet"

I myself had never really had much interaction with this individual.  But I really felt sorry for her when she took that stand and at the same time I gave her PROPS!  I sensed how hard that must have been for her to leave that supportive group of friends behind. But she did it because she has morals --- I reached out to her on her blog and ended up purchasing a baby set from her new venue.  Gee....did I spend $60+ dollars out of spite and malice? Nope...I bought from her shop because I was proud of her for not being afraid to stand up for what she believes in.

Oh but now someone can go to the Zibbet forum and make up a whole new chapter?

WJW

now at the end of the day...we as on-line hand made vintage and supply sellers do support sellers on all venues.

Bottom line is that just because we do not support some of the actions from the CEO's or paths that the venues have gone down.... this in no way shape or form means that those of us out here who voice our opinions are trying to hurt individual sellers.  At the end of the day.... we do this in hopes that we are offering our opinions to save others time and money and in the long run actually help them.

Of course this is just my opinion.

Hope ya'll have a fab weekend and Happy Easter to those of ya out there who celebrate this Holiday!